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Don't know if this is of much interest to this forum...... but here's the latest Titan truck video. Unveil date is the 12th in Detroit. We sell a pile of trucks up here in Alberta, and being an oil heavy province fleet is strong here..... so it's an exciting product for us/me.

 

In relevance to this forum.....it's unclear/undecided/unknown if the new 5.0L Diesel engine will make it's way to NV or not.

 

I badly need factory 4x4 NV's and diesel is a strong second on my upgrade list.

 

 

Interesting to see that (and yes I'm bragging a bit) they show shots of La Jolla, Detroit, Mississippi and Arizona facilities and I've managed to tour all of them as parts of sales contests I've won and it brought back some good memories. 

 

 

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It will be interesting to see which parts are shared or can be shared.

 

Most of the "new" oil 4x4 fleet trucks with the flags on back have been Fords. Few Dodges, fewer Chevys, fewer still Tundras and no Titans. This new Titan could change that. You should do well.

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Here I go responding to my own message... Sort of.

 

Bates and Chris, as Titan info comes available,

please post it.

 

Regarding 4x4 NV conversions, you will have to hope the new Titan parts work and that the plant in Mississippi will get on it. There was a post on the SMB forum complaining about a conversion using too many current Titan parts.

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Oddly we won't get any different information than what the public gets at this point in the game. Logging into Nissan's portal this am still has the new murano in the feature spot and nary a word on the new titan.

 

Here's a snippet of simple email I've sent out to my bigger clients this am:

 

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/12/2016-nissan-titan-xd-detroit-official/#image-1

 

Going to be 2 Titans, a Titan XD (diesel & v8) and a regular Titan (v6 or v8).

 

XD will have the big Cummins diesel in it, towing of 12,000+ and payload of 2000+. Sort of a heavy half version.

 

 

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I already got a PO sent back for a new Titan too. hahaha.

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Truck Trend has a Titan xt first look, but on my iPhone, I thought I clicked on Ford truck of the year. Must be the headlights, the "computer generated (?) photos or the 2/3s format I my phone (site won't let me enlarge it).

 

Great that you have a PO, one of many I would guess...

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Comments from others often mention Ford, also getting some tundra and some RAM from it.

 

Frankly with how old the truck is presently anything new is most welcome from a sales perspective. I remember selling it back in 05 and it was fun to sell at the time and I'm looking forward to the process yet again!

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Actual photos make it look better! Nissanusa has it up as well.

 

For those who do not like all the chrome on the NV grill, the same as body paint looks good.

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As Bates was saying, I too am excited for the Diesel option hopefully migrating over to the NV. I wouldn't mind going through Quigley to get my 4x4 added again, but it would sure be nice to have 4x4 as a factory option. Especially if all the goodies come with it like: rear diff lock, hill assist, ELSD (I know the NV has it for the rear, but for the front axle also), etc.

 

My question is if the NV's have the GVWR's, GAWR's, and strong frames to compete with the 3/4 and 1 ton van markets why then did Nissan choose to stop the Titan XD at the 2000? or 1500.5 level? Why not make it a full 3/4 ton?

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What Nissan think's it sees is a market between half ton and 3/4 ton. At the launch CEO Ghosn was talking about 75,000 people annually swap from 3/4 to half ton and another 75,000 swap from 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton. So the thinking is there's a bit of a niche there that is looking for something inbetween.  Whitespace they referred to it as.

 

I'd speculate that thinking is driven by the acknowledgement that they won't knockdown any of GM, Ford or Ram so they have to carve out 100,000 sales (or whatever number they are targeting) some other way. Zig when everyone else Zags sort of thing.

 

I'd rather go full 3/4 ton and be done with it, from a selfish standpoint it opens far more possibilities from a fleet sales perspective for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited and this truck will still do quite well for us/me but just getting a bit more payload would open a few more doors.

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My one concern looking over the numbers is the payload and the towing. Say you are towing something that is 12000lbs, the tongue weight would be 1400lbs (12%) min, that means you only have 600lbs left over for cargo and passengers. So for me, that would be the trailer, the wife and I, the kids and nothing else. So yea, payload is a big deal. That's what chased me out of the 1/2 ton market, you could get a truck that was rated to pull a lot, but then you would have no available payload for cargo. It will be nice to see what the actual specs will be. Especially with them using the rear axle from the NV, six lugs instead of eight, but still a full floating, 13 incher.

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I did that math too (although I used 10% tongue weight). We shall see. I'm guessing I'll be adding super springs to these things from time to time too.

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