Hey yall, im new to the forum and i do not yet own a nv 3500 pass. Our current family/tow vehicle is a 2003 chevy burban 5.3 2wheel drive. We have a total of 7 kids, 5 of which still roll with us everywhere we go, the other 2 are drivers and we arent cool enough to ride with half the time, lol. But when we go camping we all ride in the burb, 3 bench seats, and some cargo and its LOADED down....before we hook up to our 33' trailer weighing 6700lbs dry. Ive upgraded the rear end, but its still pushing the capabilities of that setup. I saw a pop up ad for these new 3500 passengers from nissan, and fell in love once i clicked on it. 8700-9500lbs towing capacity (depending on what web site you use), and all the other stuff it offers is amazing. Nissan sales people still dont have a clue about what this thing does, capabilities, and stuff. I end up telling them more abot it then they know. Our main question is are there any families like us, towing what we tow, and driving one of these???? The dealers arent budging much at all. I found one in Tampa for 37400, SL, towing package, nav package, fully loaded. 5 boys under 12, we are rapidly outgrowing the burban, so if faced with the option again, would yall buy it all over again? Is it worth everything they say it is? Is it "falling" apart on any of yall? does it continue to drive smoot? We test drove one, but it wasnt equiped like we need it. Also, the nearest dealer that arent A$$holes are in Dallas, 3 hrs away. Should we wait till '14 models come out and try picking up a '13 still on lot? Because it seems that theyre extremelly hard to find in Black, with the SL package and everything we want on it. Dollar for dollar the new suburbans, expeditions, or any vans cant come close to this vehicle. Whats yalls input? Thank you!!