After researching, searching, waiting, debating, etc... since June 2014, I ordered an NV from CarMax on Saturday. It is on its way from Fort Worth TX to Tucson! First time buying a car this way. You have to pay a nonrefundable transfer fee to get it to your location... and there's no haggling in CarMaxLand... but they gave me a good trade-in offer for my 2008 Honda Element. I haven't signed any papers yet but I am 100% sure this will be the perfect next vehicle for me and my bank has already approved the loan. If Elements had not been discontinued in 2011, I would have just got another one of them. I had a 2004 and then the 2008 and those things have NOTHING wrong with them except the window regulators... and the airbags recall recently. I plan to convert rear of van to allow for travel but still be able to remove camp gear out if I need to haul things. I am an eco-artist/treasure finder/furniture re-purpose-er, who also happens to have "gypsy feet", that is looking forward to all that space and standing room! Also, if any members use their NV for camping or vandwelling (part time? full time?), I will be looking forward to reading your posts, suggestions, advice, recommendations in the near future. Attaching pic to show my "Upgrade" on space from Element to NV! Daydreamin520, from Tucson AZ