jaredg Posted July 17, 2016 I just bought a set of Vision Raptor wheels in 17x8 size, +25 offset. I was test fitting them in the garage to test for clearances, etc and found that the lug nuts only engage about 4 to 4-1/2 turns by hand. That doesn't seem like nearly enough thread engagement. I've always gone by the rule of thumb that you want at least as much engagement as the diameter of the stud. That would be about 9.3 turns for 14mm x 1.5 studs like we have. I only have about 1/2 of that. Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, what did you do? http://www.visionwheel.com/wheel/1142/528/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy_george Posted July 18, 2016 Hmmm, no, my aluminum wheels allowed plenty of engagement. Wierd....? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaredg Posted July 18, 2016 Andy - Do you know what type of lugs are on your wheels? I just found the ones pictured below over the weekend. Mine don't have the .25" straight section at the bottom. That might make the difference if they will work with my wheels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy_george Posted July 18, 2016 I'm gone for work this week, but I'll pull one off and check when I get home. I don't believe my lugnuts have that bottom collar either, but maybe that my wheel is just thinner at the hub? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaredg Posted July 19, 2016 Andy - I am interested to hear what you find later. I called the retailer today and they said I need the extended thread lugs pictured above. They were not in stock, so it will probably be a week or so before I get them. Then I will be out of town Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaredg Posted August 7, 2016 Update - I got a set of the extended thread lugs pictured above and that got me the extra thread engagement I needed. It also has the added benefit of locating the wheel on the hub pretty well since hub rings don't seem to be offered on a lot of these applications. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexpeters Posted August 12, 2017 Did the center cap for with these lug nuts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaredg Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Oh yeah. They work fine with the center caps. Edited August 12, 2017 by jaredg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites