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#1 Kilgar

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:00 AM

I’m new to the forum as we recently purchased a used 2014 V8 passenger van. I’m wondering what people are getting for MPG. I was expecting to take a bit of a hit on fuel economy on this beast but so far this van is an absolute pig. I’ve been tracking my mileage for about 1,200 miles on the van so far and am averaging between 9-10 MPG. I have the 4th row of seats removed, no cargo and have been driving either solo or with 2 toddlers. I would say I have been doing 50/50 city and highway driving, I don’t have a heavy foot and the terrain fairly mild. A full tank of gas gets me to 230 miles and then I am on fumes. I can’t imagine what my mileage will drop to once I load the whole family up and tow my 7,000lbs trailer.
Does 9-10 MPG seem ridiculously poor? I do have the Quigley 4x4. I was expecting perhaps 15MPG for combined mileage.
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#2 radin2son

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:37 AM

Until the very end of your post, where you mentioned 4x4, I was all set to do the usual mpg post. I think KMG posted his average mpg for a trip from Missouri to Washington State in his NV 3500 high top camper conversion. I don’t recall any other 4x4 owners posting mpg.

Since it is a Quigley conversion, call them and see what mpg they got on their NVs and what other owners are saying. Does Quigley have an owners forum?

Let us know what you find.

Edited by radin2son, 11 January 2019 - 01:24 PM.

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#3 ASD Dad

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:56 AM

Agree with Rad.  The Quigley comment threw me!  

I have oversized all terrain tires and a large roof rack with kayak racks attached.  I average 12 MPG day in day out (over 60K miles).  When I had the highway tires and no rack I could get 15-17 on the highway easily.  Still got about 13 around town.

 

When towing my 7700# camper I get 8-9 mpg.


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#4 Mark Rogers

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 12:39 PM

My van is still pretty much stock, except for a pair of running boards.  I get 11 mpg around town and 13 on the highway.  I could do better on highway mileage if I kept my speed down to 65 mph, but a lot of my highway miles are in places where the speed limit is 80 and I don't want to delay my arrival.

 

Kilgar, I'm guessing your 4x4 conversion included at least a 2" lift and some bigger tires.  Both of those come with an efficiency penalty.  I don't know if the drivetrain modifications would affect mileage or not in 2WD mode, but they're certainly not going to help, either.

 

The new V8 engine and transmission introduced in 2017 help efficiency a little bit (maybe 1-2 mpg better).  So, keep that in mind if you're comparing mileage with other NV owners.


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#5 Kilgar

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:40 PM

I checked with Quigley and they said there would be little to no impact on the fuel mileage outside the extra 360 lbs the 4x4 adds to the weight of the Van.
Mark my vehicle is stock as well except for the 4x4. No lift on it and I am running standard size all seasons.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:56 PM

15 mpg for a V8 is unrealistic for mixed city/highway driving. 9-10 mpg may seem low but others have reported this.

With these trucks, you get what you get no matter how you drive it. Think instead about your NV in terms of what it offers in interior capacity and safety.

Is there a Quigley owner’s forum where you can check real mpg? You may have to compare other van pre/post conversions if no NVs are included.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:32 PM

Check expeditionportal.com for Quigley mpg. An example is a ‘98 Ford V10 that gets 9 mpg off road, 9.5 mpg road and 10 mpg highway at 65/70 mph. Although set up differently than yours, you may be able to search for a stock V10 to compare the 2 Fords.

Under the above post was the comment: “If you want 15 mpg, don’t buy a Ford E350.” Another essentially said buy a diesel.

Edited by radin2son, 11 January 2019 - 09:16 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:30 PM

I have a 2017 4x4 from Advanced with a 2” lift, 34” all terrain tires, and a gear ratio change to 3.93. I regularly get 10 mpg mixed driving. I’ve gotten as high as 14-15 mpg if it is pure highway miles.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 11:52 AM

There you go.

It is interesting that Advanced is converting 2017 NVs. Quigley was still working on development as of 9/5/2018.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 12:40 PM

I get about 22 with my 2018 v8 3500sl. Of course that is kilometers per gallon but measuring it that way makes me feel better.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:48 PM

Lol moose! I get 12-14mpg the majority of the time. Mostly rural and a little city driving.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 06:37 PM

Andy, 2x4 right? All we need now is for Mahu to jump in with his V6 mpg, but we do eNVy the V6 mpg.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 09:08 PM

Really? The 2017 has been around for 2 years now. I’ve had my van since October 2017 and I am sure that Advanced had been doing the conversions on the 2017s long before I bought mine.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:33 PM

The web site, quigley4x4.com under news, says development is near completion and to check back in November, 2018 or contact a sales rep for more info. When you dig a little deeper, the model guide doesn’t specify a model year. So they may be taking orders.

You can still access the Nissan Blue Pass Moab video from their Nissan drop down menu.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 09:12 AM

Yes, 2x4. Sorry, I forgot to include that important piece of info.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 12:49 PM

Too Bad you can’t get an NV with either an EcoBoost or Diesel engine. My old boss has a F150 with the EcoBoost and he loves it. Unfortunately, Ford dropped their body on frame vans. And then Nissan teases us with videos of the Cargo X with the Cumins Turbo Diesel. Obviously Ford isn’t going to give their engines to the competition but why not offer the diesel version of the NV?
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 11:43 PM

Something is wrong. 9-10 mpg in any van this day and age is ridiculous. You don't even have a high top!

 

I don't have an NV but am considering getting one at some point. My 1-ton GMC Savana gets  17-19 on the highway and about 15 mpg overall.  - http://www.fuelly.co.../cortttt/417194- I don't have 4-wheel drive but that should knock it down just a mile or two. I do have solar and a yakima rack that is loaded up...

 

I think something is seriously wrong. You should investigate further. 

 

Good luck! 



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 12:13 PM

NVs can average 15 mpg.

We have to assume this NV was properly serviced by the previous owner. Tuned? Has anyone done anything except oil and recommended service?

I now know where Abbotsford, BC is. Beautiful area. How often is 4x4 needed?

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 06:25 PM

GM engines have their Active Fuel Management technology. This allows the engine to shut off some of the cylinders under light load conditions, creating better fuel efficiency. Unfortunately, this is another case where they won’t be sharing that technology with competitors. I originally wanted to get a Chevy Express instead of the NV because they are plentiful, cheap, and also have the body on frame instead of the unibody, but then I test drove one and I just about had to use a shoehorn to get me into the drivers seat. I also injured my self just trying to exit the van after the test drive. I’m tall (6’6”), but not so freakishly tall that I shouldn’t expect to be able to fit into one of the biggest vehicles that you can buy.
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Posted 14 January 2019 - 09:25 PM

There always are trade offs. Nissan Corp seems to be putting all their resources into everything except NVs.






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